Astonishing News Story About Child Support
Posted by Mr. Thoughtful on April 22, 2008
A bakery delivery guy is paying $611 of his monthly income of $1,600 to his ex-wife in child support. So far a pretty ordinary story, but things get more frightening. The ex-wife has a court order for him to pay $2,000/month. Since the order is for him to pay his ex-wife more than he makes, he is behind, to the tune of $61,000.
His ex-wife is trying to get him extradited to New York. According to the following story in the New York Daily News, under New York law since he owes more than $50,000, he “loses his right to appear in court to defend himself against her charges.”
If the NY Daily News is correct and that is indeed the law in New York, it is truly astonishing that a US citizen could lose his right to defend himself in court.
Timothy McVeigh had the right to appear in court to defend himself against the charges of blowing up the federal building in Oklahoma City, killing hundreds of people. He even had a first-rate lawyer appointed for him and paid by the taxpayers.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed will be soon tried in a US court, and even this guy, accused of masterminding the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, killing 3,000 people, will get to appear and defend himself in court. In fact, I’m pretty sure he will get the services of a first-rate lawyer to defend him, paid by the taxpayers.
But apparently not this bakery delivery guy, Robert Myers, who never killed anyone and pays more than a third of his income to his ex-wife already.
Some of you might think there is no way this could possibly be the law anywhere in the United States. Those of you with more than a passing knowledge of the constitutional guarantees of due process of law, or even those of you who have taken 8th grade civics, might think a person cannot be deprived of the opportunity to defend himself in court when he is charged with a crime.
I once thought this as well. But the more I see of how the law sometimes works, the less sure I am that things such as this can’t happen in the courts of this country. There are certainly constitutional principles that would prevent such things. But a constitution is only as strong as the people who enforce it. And among many people who should be enforcing it (judges and state legislators), there is a tendency to create major exceptions in some areas. One of these areas involves child support. So it would not greatly suprise me to find out that Robert Myers won’t get his day in court.
Another interesting part of the story is that the ex-wife is suing two of Robert Myers’s former employers, alleging they failed to garnish his wages to pay her the child support. At least one of those employers has asserted that it did pay her. Here is the story:
Chandra Myers will be in Brooklyn Federal Court today to face off against Sara Lee Bakeries and Bimbo Bakeries USA Inc., which distributes Thomas’ English Muffins, Entenmann’s and other treats.
Myers contends the bakery giants defied orders to garnish a total of $36,000 from Robert Sean Myers’ wages from 2001 to 2004.
“It is unfortunate in today’s society that we not only have deadbeat dads, but we have deadbeat companies,” declared Myers, who has latched onto a rarely used statute to demand a half-million dollars in penalties and interest along with the millions in damages from the firms.
Bimbo’s lawyers and Chandra Myers’ ex charge the suit is without merit. Sara Lee had no comment.
Robert Sean Myers, a Los Angeles bakery deliverer, said he has records showing that he’s attempted to meet child support demands for his 6-year-old daughter.
He insists he won’t settle the suit with his ex-wife because $611 of his $1,600 monthly income now goes to their daughter. He also has five other kids to support, he said.
But Chandra Myers has a standing order requiring him to pay $2,000 per month in support based on her expenses. Now $61,000 behind, Robert Sean Myers says he’s tried to negotiate a payment plan, but she’s intent on getting him extradited here. Under state law, if his owed child support exceeds $50,000, he loses his right to appear in court to defend himself against her charges.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/04/21/2008-04-21_queens_mom_sues_bakeries_for_failing_to_.html
Hat tip: http://www.overlawyered.com/2008/04/queens-mom-sues-bakeries-for-f.html
Cynthia H. said
Mr. Thoughtful,
Thanks for the insightful post. Robert Sean Myers is my best friend, so I have first hand information regarding his plight. Not only has his right to due process been denied by the the Family Court in New York, as recently as March 28, 2008 his California drivers license was suspended because he did not have the resources to to appear in court. So ultimately he is currently unable to work, as his position as a route delivery driver requires his ability to drive. In California even those convicted of DUI’s can request special permits to allow them to continue to drive (under special circumstances) to earn a living, yet there are no such provisions for those whose lose their licenses as a result of child support arrears. The irony here is that he has been court ordered to pay a child support order which clearly exceeds his ability to pay (thus he will remain in arrears) and now he can’t even work, and the present support order remains at 2k. He has sought permission from the court to appear via electronic testimony, and has even asked the court for a continuance to give him enough time to gather the resources required to travel to New York from California, clearly a hardship when you earn less than 20,000 a year. However, both request were denied by the court. Moreover, the ex-wife who poses as a (custodial parent/ victim in open court) yet she she has multiple post on the Internet as “Dr. Chandra Cromwell” and “rxlady4you” record label executive, and real estate investor with a lucrative six figure salary, and poses in front of the Queens Family Court, clad with a smirk, and a fur coat (where is PITA) preparing to have him extradited to New York on an arrest warrant, while simultaneously filing motions against his former employers demanding 8 million dollars! This guy can’t even afford legal representation and yet the “victim ex wife” has the resources to sue major corporations. In truth, this woman is a bitter, egotist, and narcissist using her child support case as a springboard for media attention, and cash, not from her ex-husband Robert Sean Myers-as she knows his is a man of modest means, but from his former employers(two major corporations). Moreover, as this is something that won’t be printed in the media, this couple met on the Internet and were married for less than a year. They never even lived in the same household, yet because they were legally married, since the incecption of this matter the court has treated this case based on the “presumed needs of a child of a marriage” and failed to utilize the standard UIFSA child support calculations to determine a fair pro rata child support amount, or his actual income.
Austin said
This is absolutely absurd. It seems that everyday that goes by I hear more and more stories that are along these lines. Mostly regarding the amount that one is to pay on a monthly basis for child support or that an individual was duped into thinking that a child was their’s only to find out the child is not and is still required by law to support that child. It kills me to think there are laws, anywhere in the United States, that remove your right to due process for any reason. This is a very sad story and I hope that something in the near future can be done about it, although I’m not going to hold my breath.
Mr. Thoughtful said
Thank you for your comment Cynthia. It is interesting to hear more details that didn’t appear in the Daily News article.
The situation is truly frightening, almost Kafka-esque. Robert Myers is hit with a court order to pay out more than he makes. Predictably, he falls into arrears and then the machinery of the state goes to work, resulting in the revocation of his driver’s license, the resulting loss of his job, and his likely going to jail for who knows how long.
While he is in jail or otherwise not working his arrears will build. He’ll probably be in and out of jail for much of his life and will unfortunately be hamstrung in his efforts to hold a job.
And he can’t even get his day in court. He will apparently just have to go straight to jail, without an attorney or even the right to contest this horrible injustice.
Ironically, if he had robbed a bank to get the money to pay this court order, he would get his day in court and have a lawyer paid by the government.
Like you, I hope that the law will be changed to prevent this kind of injustice in the future. But also like you, I’m not holding my breath. State legislators and judges show no sign that they’re in the mood to change the disgusting and unjust laws which gave rise to this incident.
I’m going to write a post in the next day or two about a bill that was killed in the Tennessee legislature. It would have allowed men who were proved by DNA tests not to be fathers to stop paying child support to the mothers who deceived them into paying child support in the first place.
As the law stands now, in many states the man (I won’t say father bc he was proved not to be the father) has to keep paying child support even if he was tricked into thinking the child was his.
Austin, I think that’s just one example of the kind of thing you are talking about. In so many ways the man is at an extreme disadvantage in the courts in this country.
Few of the mostly male legislators are in the least bit concerned about this sorry state.
Counsel said
I’ve spoken to this woman and received a number of nasty emails from her, simply because I was involved in a lawsuit in which Bimbo Bakeries might potentially someday have to pay more money to some of its drivers. She made all sorts of threats to me, incorrectly assuming that I would somehow be in charge of distributing money that might be subject to her support order. I stopped opening her emails because she says the most outrageous things just to try to make your blood boil. She’s a nightmare. I can’t believe anyone would want any sort of relationship, even friend or coworker, with someone who spews such vitriol all the time.
Mr. Thoughtful said
Counsel,
It’s unfortunate that this harridan has caused so many people so much annoyance, and worse.
It’s even more unfortunate that the law and judicial system allow her the weapons to cause Robert Sean Myers to lose his livelihood, extort money from him, and possibly put him in prison.
The laws should be changed so that these injustices won’t be commonplace. But I’m not holding my breath.
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AMAZING said
IT IS A AMAZING THE SHAMELESS LIES THAT ROBERT MYERS AND HIS PARAMOURS WILL POST ON THE INTERNET ALONG WITH PEOPLE WHO THIS LADY WOULD NOT ALLOW TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HER LIKE SHAMELESS ATTORNEY’S WHO WANTED TO EXTORT MONEY FROM THE MOTHER.
THE COURT DOCUMENTS TELL THE TRUE STORY.
WHEN YOU SEE THE COURT DOCUMENTS YOU WILL BE BLOWN AWAY.
TALK TO THE MOTHER, ASK TO SEE THE DOCUMENTS.
MR. MYERS NEVER MADE $1600.00 A MONTH EVEN WHEN HE WAS 18 YEARS OLD, THE $1600.00 A MONTH STORY IS ALL A SCAM SUPPORTED BY FAKE PAYROLL AND AND IRS RETURNS (THE IRS IS ADDRESSING THIS) THE PARAMOURS (CYNTHIA HARBOUR LOGAN AND ANNABELLE GHARIBEH) WHO ARE POSTING THESE COMMENTS ARE ROBERT MYERS SHAMELESS PARAMOURS WHO HAVE FILED FALSE DOCUMENTS WITH THE COURT THEMSELVES INCLUDING FAKE PAYSTUBS AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WILL BE ADDRESSING THEIR CRIMES AS WELL.DOCUMENTATION SHOWS THAT ROBERT MYERS WAS A ABUSIVE HUSBAND AND IT IS WELL KNOWN THAT ROBERT MYERS ABUSES THESE PARAMOURS AS WELL.
SPEAK TO CHANDRA MYERS.
ASK TO MEET HER AND SEE THE STATE COURT DOCUMENTS AND YOU WILL BE BLOWN AWAY BY THE AVALANCHE OF EVIDENCE THIS LADY HAS.
SHAME SHAME YOU PARAMOURS, GET SOME HELP AND FLEE FROM YOUR ABUSER LIKE CHANDRA MYERS DID.
CHANCES ARE YOU WONT SINCE YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO BE AROUND HIS MILLIONS AND ENDURE THE PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL ABUSE.
WhoIsChandraMyers said
I am looking into Who the Heck is this woman, for example, Where did the “Dr.” and “Rev.” (acc. to some reports) come from.
My main question is whether the nutty, aggressive, narcissistic, threatening posts are actually from this Chandra, or someone trying a smear campaign on her. right now, I”m leaning towards the former, because I just heard her on blogtalk radio, and her email and phone#/ were repeatedly announced. I saw her Amazon reading list (religious taint) and the “gobignetwork” thing seeking $1 million sponsorship.
I deal with and advocate for a number of women who are unable to leave domestic violence situations safely (I’m still working on it — been 10 years) and/or who lost their children suddenly through the family law system,w hich is where we believe batterers go to hide. We are taking a lot of hate talk and slammin’ from the father’s groups, and I tell you, to survive assaults in the home, stalking, losing it all, and then public stereotyping and bad-talking on-line (I call it rabble rousing) is pretty intimidating. I actually know some of the funding going through the government on many of these issues, and the relationships between different groups.
I left an abusive relationship long ago, and wasn’t able to get all the way free, in part because of the games our government is playing around this issue of Child Support and the Family Court. I think it’s basically a way to get everyone furious with each other (Dads vs. Moms) and then keep the populace poor so bunches of PhDs can do better studies on the rest of us. At least that’s one of my current takes. I haven’t run across too many people who think that’s the issue, but HEY, it beats the viewpoint that all fathers are good upstanding characters, and all mothers are faking domestic violence claims in order to get the kids (and live off the government).
Anyhow in the course of looking into these issues one of us ran across a post — by Ms. (or Dr. or Rev.) Chandra (Myers, Cromwell, whichever) – about a child support enforcement official who was himself a deadbeat Dad (a term we use for people who don’t pay up when they clearly have the ability to, which this guy did). Amazingly, it seems he is on the government salary, but chose to spend weekends in jail rather than pay his ex-wife. Then someone looked up the dockets, posted them, and used the word “deadbeat” in connection NOT with Chandra Myers’ ex, but with the individual in question.
Some people shared what we found on the web, with her name & phone# under it. This OCSE official’s misdeeds were then checked on the docket, and put together with the public profile, and we protested (a few of us). I also called, following up, the Chandra Myers #E. It took a while for me to realize, despite the official title “Family Court Petitioner and Advocate” which i thought might be some title they have on East Coast they don’t on the West, that she was a litigant like anyone else. Well, not exactly.
So, that info was posted on a blog — not by me, and not by the person Chandra (or someone using her ID) has been tailing, and hounding. My colleague was threatened with a lawsuit for using a wrong word in describing a 3rd party. This colleague got a half-literate email criticizing (far as I can tell) someone else’s spelling (Which I just checked — and there was none, just some punctuation stuff). This colleague, who did nothing more than what the rest of us do — research things related to our topics and share them sometimes, was accused of posting something she didn’t, she was told “I have your IP adn know you posted” (obviously false) and was furious that something actually just family support was instead called child support, and about the word “deadbeat” in the title — which my colleague hadn’t even written, that is being attacked.
I went looking again today and just heard a blogtalkradio with Chandra on it. She has a real sweet tone, very charming, and appears to have done what a lot of parents have — their own research, and figured out that the courts are screwy and you’re best off checking facts and following through,rather than letting an attorney sit by and fail to, or anyone in particular assigned by a government agency to do anything. In that, she’s right — but not unique. She is talking about national coalitions, as if there weren’t any already, and doesn’t appear to have even a blog, a nonprofit name, or anything that such a SMART person might have put together, and a lot of smart (AND hardworking) women I know DID do.
All I can say is the communication that has disrupted a few days of not just my time, but others’ as well (and we’re doing worthwhile things with our time) smacks of “narcissistic sociopath,” which is a term my ex’s NEW woman used to describe him, and I think it’s dawning on her now how she was used. Stalking through the internet is a HORRIBLE thing to do to anyone, let alone off it (which is worse, and could for sure/ and does) result in people getting killed. It’s an awful form of abuse, and is intended to, and does make life hell for others, needlessly.
I’ll say this — narcissism doesn’t brook any competition. It made me think twice to hear a woman talking as though there were no other people addressing the problems in the family courts, when there have been for well over a decade, probably at least 2 at this point. They aren’t gender neutral, either.
I’m of the opinion that if a court issues a child support order (even if a rotten nasty unfair one), then it should be enforced. So I was like, hey, go-girl — that’s a lot, but if the order is issued, then if we are going to have SOME reason and stability around here, it should be enforced. I sure as heck couldn’t get any kind of orders actually consistently obeyed. So it was, “go-girl!”
My case consisted entirely of the child support agency ReFUSing to enforce, and basically discouraging me from doing so myself, saying I don’t stand a chance, etc. While all this was going, I had stalking, escalation, inciting others to act aggressively towards me, til the point got to, my friends had to separate from me because they couldn’t take the pressure put on THEM because of HIM. It was unreal. At first I was like, hey thanks for sorting through m real friends from the fairweather ones, but then it got to really hurting people, including financially. Then, rather than actually follow through on getting someone to get a job (jobs were around, this wasn’t the issue in our case), he simply nabbed the children so there would be no more obligation. STILL isn’t working much, and my profession was not redeemable. I’m not out YET.
I lived with a pathological liar (and abuser) for years, when living with him, it wasn’t the lies, but the flat-out physical assaults, verbal abuse, sabotaging my work and relationships (particularly anything that inspired or nourished me as a person), and afterwards, when he couldn’t just haul off and slap or throw me around (day or night any more) he went after my family (turned them pretty easy — not too surprising when you figure out, where were they during the abuse, anyhow?? ) and with them have gone after other DECENT people I have been associated with, and loved and worked with. This was a single mother. Then he and his new “beau” (who just figured out his true character, see above), snatched our (his & my )daughters on an overnight visitation adn cut off all contact. Now she wants to be “friends” with me, and I’m trying to figure that one out, but she’s maybe a key to my seeing my girls again. I had PTSD in court, and right now everyone’s broke, it’s a “detente” I suppose. This is pretty much what family law will do to almost anyone, and is designed to, but some character flock there for the fun and games.
It bothers me that Ms.Dr.Rev. Chandra would seem to be like this, and something doesn’t smell right. What I’d REALLY like to know is (1) was it really an internet match, and just long enough to get her pregnant?, AND (2) what’s the deal on Mr. Myers. Telling his present job doesn’t do a lot when it comes to child support issues — some guys work, and some guys intentionally don’t. What’s with the 5 other children, and was he (as one post said) an ex-millionaire? If Amazing (or someone else) wants to let me know, pls. see my site, and you might learn a thing or too also (i’m not selling anything).
Has Chandra ever held a REAL job, and does she have any other children? There’s more than one way to make a living (“real” jobs aren’t the only way for sure, but the ability to hold one tells me something about a person…..).
Hope this makes it through. Maybe I’ll call that 617 number again. It could be the woman just wants her internet ratings to go up.
This is wearing on the soul, for sure.
AMAZING said
its sad that all people have is the internet to post lies and drama on and make up tall tales, really sad, get active, get in courts, help others make a difference in your life and the life of others, and rely on your papers and toss the idle chatter to the side, this is comical but mostly sad, women attacking women and the man who claims to have never made more than 1600 a month but has fathered 5, 6, or 7 children who knows gets to stand back and laugh at all the women what a mess, women make the world what it is and women destroy the world by trying to destroy each other instead of helping each other and working together, so cynthia h, austin, mr thoughtful, counsel, mr thoughful, speaking for all men rambling on, amazing, whoischandramyers and all the others, hats off to you because you all win the trophy for being problems and solutions
Cynthia H. said
In reference to the 8/4/09 post submitted by “amazing”. Who seems quite knowledgable of the subject, well-versed on the “paramours” of Robert Sean Myers, and willing to risk submitting allegations of fraud (careful Internet Laws are swiftly changing).
Let me share this with you. As someone, privvy to the details of this matter, and clearly a champion for Chandra Myers, you must also be aware that according to an article published in the New York Daily News (8/23/09) referencing Chandra Myers, as a “fake advocate” who reportedly stole $25,000 dollars from an elderly man,reportedly “wiping out his entire savings” as well as the deed to his home. Perhaps the shame you so generously apply to the “paramours” you refer to as victims of abuse should be ushered towards Chandra Myers. With six counts of Grand Larceny and Forgery (felony crimes) that Chandra Myers is charged with, she is now facing 15 years of jail time.
I would direct you to the New York Unified Court system, it’s all a matter of public record regarding Case Number: 12804-2008 Kings County, New York (State of New York v Chandra Myers) but obviosuly you know this, as you where there on February 24, 2009, when she was arrested at 11:30 am EST; at the arraignment on 6/19/09; and on 7/16/09 when she was charged with 6 FELONY counts, and will be present in front of Judge John P. Walsh on September 15, 2009. Hopefully, justice will be served! Good Luck in court (You will need it).
Clearly, you are not going to suggest that the New York Daily News reporter, who wrote the story, or the New York DA, who filed the charges against Chandra Myers, or the eldrely reported victim, are also mindless “paramours” of Robert Sean Myers.
If you continue to submit fradulent postings, with false information, you will be dealing with that matter in court along with your felony hearing; your lawsuits against Bimbo Bakeries, Sara Lee Bakeries, and your ongoing child support case. Now that’s amazing!
okiegirl said
how are you Cynthia Angela H Harbour Logan?
always delightful to see postings from the abused woman who left her hair and clothing on jamaica avenue because Robert Sean Myers set her up. print up any fake 1099 or fake paystubs lately? it is you who should be careful darling of the company you keep and the married men you befriend who dont tell you everything and complain to their still legal wife on voicemail about your nasty dwellings and poor housekeeping skills. Stop hiding behind this silly blogs and come back to New York or pick up the phone and try to harrass a woman in an effort to get her to close her child support case, everyone would love to see you and hear from you. You are going to have your day in court but it wont be for some trumped up lies that a scoundrel created with no documentation, your day will be based upon the documents and the facts. Oh and by the way, make any recent trips to Slater Avenue to roll around on the floor crying because Robert Sean Myers has dumped you? Oh and by the way, have you vandalized any of Robert Sean Myers cars lately? we would love to see you and thanks for confirming that you are still a mess, since you are almost a senior citizen now perhaos you should seek medical intervention for these mental afflications that still ravish your body darling.
Cynthia H. said
Interesting, yet ridiculous comment from “okiegirl” why not post your comment using your own name(s) Chandra Cromwell, Dr. Chandra Cromwell, Chandra Myers, Dr. Chandra Myers. Since you want to choose this site, which was initially based on the New York Daily News article-about you, that’s fine. However, let’s remain factual, stay away from conjecture. First, while I am aware that you pose as a doctor and refer to yourself in third person as a “saved sinner” you are neither. Actually according to the New York Daily News article (8/23/09) you are nothing more than a “fake advocate” who forged documents, and stole 25,000 dollars from poor Levi Latham, and you have been charged with 6 felony counts, and are currently facing a possible jail sentence of 15 years. Moreover, shouldn’t you spend your time working on your criminal defense case for grand larceny and forgery Chandra Myers (interesting you still use dude’s last name, yet he divorced you). Your comments about me are meaningless, and have nothing whatever to do with any of your current court battles, nor the website post, nor the news articles about you in the New York Times, or the New York Daily News. You are facing criminal charges, Chandra Myers, oh wait is it now Dr. Chandra Reid? Get over yourself, Chandra Cromwell, Chandra Cromwell-Smith, Chandra Myers, rxlady4you. The bitterness and venom you spew towards others is truly aging you. (Take a look at your picture in the NY Daily News April 2008). You can continue submitting post all over the Internet (Chandra Myers, saint, angel, hero, victim, annointed, fake post speaking in third person). Do you think the Brooklyn DA, Charles Hynes that filed criminal charges against you, or the 12-unit team, that Senator Schumer, spoke about in the news conference on 3/7/09, the unit designed to convict those who commit forgery and larceny, is reading this, or for that matter the Bimbo/Sara Lee attorney’s? You are aware that your case was highlighted, and Mr. Levi Latham (victim) was also present right, apparently you committed, sorry alledgely committed a crime, just at the time when federal funds were allocated to go after alledged criminals, those who commit forgery to take the homes of senior citizen’s like Levi Latham. That’s right under name “okiegirl” in the comments on the New york Daily News, you infer that Mr. Latham is a cad, who doesn’t take care of his children, perhaps the cash was taken from him to support his children, then that makes you Chandra Myers, a hero! When you are convicte, and you will be just too much against you, should you be given jail time, feel free to write me from the jail library, we can spare the BS, and communicate directly. Just so you know the nasty comments, written about you, are from others, who have had the misfortune of dealing with you. When I submit post, which as a citizen in the free world I have the liberty to do, I use my name, or initials. I have nothing to hide-okiegirl! So in the future, should you decide to use my name, and you will, make sure that you have the court documents to support your claims. Due to your narcisstic personality disorder, you will, trust respond to this post, and yes I have the credentials to make a clinical assessment, trust! So while you spend your time perpertating as a doctor, and fake national child support advocate remember that. I await your response, but your your actual name. We can continue, perhaps I will be responding from my office, while you respond from the prison library computer. Who knows perhaps you will emerge victoriously, unscathed, the annointed self-righteous, Christian warrior right? You didn’t win in your fake case against Enterprise Rental, nor your fraudulent attempt at filing bankruptcy. You are not winning in your case(s) against Bimbo Bakeries, or Sara Lee Bakeries, though your stall tactics are clever. Just imagine if you spent your time obtaining an actual degree, you might have become an attornery (you have certainly spent enough time in court over the past decade) or a REAL doctor, instead, you are nothing more that a bitter angry woman, whose own mental health issues, and delusional sense of self importance, allows you to spend your time on the Internet, ripping those who don’t share your own myopic vision of yourself, go to school Chandra Cromwell Myers Smith Reid? Use my name on postings, back it up with bonifide evidence. Peace Reverend Dr Chandra Cromwell, criminal defendant, in the case of New York v Chandra Myers, 9/15/09 is fast approaching, I will undertstand if you wait to submit your scathing comments about me until after the trial. Look up the definition of libel, slander, and defammation, prior to submitting your post. I am not your ex-husband, I do not roll pro se, if you doubt me write about me again, indicating that I have submitted any false documents to the court, and I will see your fake national child support advocate ### in court, trust.