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This guy is channeling Mr. Sensitive

Posted by Mr. Thoughtful on August 4, 2008

I was reading more of Roissy in DC and it hit me that he sounds exactly like Mr. Sensitive when discussing marriage:

DON’T GET MARRIED.

Women by nature aren’t on your side, the law isn’t on your side, and even lapdog beta males who’ve blinded themselves to reality and unthinkingly toe the PC party line in hopes their status posturing will offer them up a scrap or two of roadworn desiccated pussy don’t have your side as a man. There is every incentive in the world to avoid marriage. It is a fetid corrupt mess…

http://roissy.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/decivilizing-human-nature-unleashed/

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One reason husbands put up with their wives’ verbal abuse

Posted by Mr. Thoughtful on July 29, 2008

The comments to Mr. Sensitive’s recent “Reese Witherspoon Rules” post caused me to think about the power balance in a marriage.  If a marriage becomes sufficiently unpleasant to either person, that person can file for divorce.  The problem occurs when the law makes divorce more advantageous for one person.

This varies from state to state, because divorce law is a function of state law.  It also varies to some extent even from county to county in the same state.  I am reliably informed that it varies quite a bit even within the same county, depending on which judge is assigned to hear the case.  But there are lots of state statutes that try to impose some uniformity in how such things as alimony and property settlements are dealt with.

Here is one such statute, from California.  Alimony should be based on:

“The extent to which the earning capacity of each party is sufficient to maintain the standard of living established during the marriage…

… The needs of each party based on the standard of living established during the marriage.”

The link below indicates this is from Cal. Family Code, Sec. 4320.  (I haven’t independently checked this).

This statute is frightening for the spouse who earns more money.  And even more frightening for the husband who worked to allow his wife to stay at home while the children were very young.  It seems to obligate the husband to keep his ex-wife up in the style to which she became accustomed during the marriage (this is usually, although not always, the husband; for a rare exception see the Joan Lunden divorce, in which she was forced to pay millions in alimony to her layabout ex-husband).

That’s an astounding bit of social engineering.  It’s one thing for a husband to decide to work hard so that his wife can stay home for a few years with the couple’s small children.  But it’s far different for a court to later penalize him for this by ordering him to keep supporting his ex-wife. 

As a stand-up comic once joked, “The court ordered me to pay my ex-wife alimony to keep her living in the style to which I had accustomed her.  But I don’t get to go over to her house to get sex on the grounds that I had gotten used to regular sex during the marriage.”

I want to direct one more comment to guys who may be considering marriage.  Almost every one of you thinks you and your future wife won’t get divorced, and if you did then she wouldn’t be a vile, money-grubber who tried to extract every dime that her lawyer could get a judge to take.  Do yourself a favor.  Take a look at the post linked to below.  It’s from a divorce bulletin board.  The woman who posted was married for four and a half years.  His income was $45,000/year and hers was $38,000.  She wanted alimony.  And she wanted the court to base it not on this guy’s income, but on the $85,000 he had earned a year or two before. 

If a court ordered alimony based on an $85,000 income when the guy currently made only $45,000, it would impoverish him.  And this does happen in divorce courts.  It’s called “imputed income.”  The guy doesn’t have to pay a percentage of his actual income, but a percentage of the higher income that he once made, or that a judge thinks he could have the potential to make.

Because the law hugely resdistributes income from the husband to the wife, it makes it more appealing for the wife to get a divorce.  This transfers power in the marriage from the husband to the wife.  That’s one of the reasons the poor guys just have to take whatever abuse their wives dole out.

http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23659

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That Tone in Her Voice

Posted by Mr. Sensitive on July 20, 2008

I was in the middle of a hike the other morning when I crossed paths with this young couple. There was nothing really special about these two individuals except for the fact that the female was berating the male over some mindless issue. What struck me was that particular tone in her voice that women used to notify guys that it’s pointless to argue.

You know that tone…

…it’s the same one that dog owners use whenever Fido drops a seven pound steamer on the kitchen floor.

Anyway, I didn’t get to hear much of this one-sided discussion, but I was able to hear the following:

“No…matter…what…I…say…or…do…it doesn’t…seem…to…matter.”

Same tone. Same inflection. Same deliberate cadence. (Actually I wouldn’t have been surprised if she started saying “Bueller?” “Bueller?”)

Now imagine if you took a cheese grater and began vigerously rubbing it on your nutsack…

…That was my reaction to her attitude.

And the sad thing was the posture of this miserable excuse for a man who was taking this abuse. Head down. Hands in his pockets. Defeated look on his face.

I’m willing to bet that this couple will eventually get married…

…followed (very) shortly by a bitter divorce.

Enjoy writing those alimony checks.

Loser.

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The Reese Witherspoon Rules

Posted by Mr. Sensitive on July 19, 2008

…although I guess a better title would be “I Have The Pussy, Therefore I Get To Make The Rules”.

I’m not sure whether you’ve seen this, but there’s been this story making the rounds regarding Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal (you might know his visually offensive sister as being the lone negative to The Dark Knight which came out last week). Anyway, it appears that this happy couple has decided to live together with her two children.

One catch…

Reese has decide to impose a strict list of rules that Jake must live by if he wants to remain in her presence. These rules include:

  • He must take off his shoes whenever he is in the house.
  • The trash must be taking out when the can is three-quarters full.
  • There will be no feet on the coffee table.
  • The family will have daily discussion at the dinner table.
  • No cursing is allowed.

Now I realize that these seem rather mundane, but here is the kicker…

Under no circumstances will plans be made without consulting the other.

Meaning poor Jake basically has to ask for permission before he gets to do anything. Now I have to ask…

Is any pussy worth that?!

Now I understand that relationships involve a series of give and take (mostly the men doing the giving and the women responsible for the taking), but to impose this type of list seems rather one sided. I could understand if this involved an incredibly hot woman, but REESE WITHERSPOON!!!

Now once poor Mr. Gyllenhaal agreed to these terms, his balls basically detached themselves from their cozy nutsack and rolled down each leg of his pants. He has willingly reduced himself to being nothing more than a lowly housepet who can’t take a shit without getting permission from his slave master.

If you’re going to put yourself in that position, why not just get married?

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Six Dating Behaviors That Will Drive Men Away

Posted by Mr. Sensitive on July 15, 2008

I noticed this article recently entitled “Six Dating Behaviors That Will Drive Men Away”…

…honestly,

does anyone really suspect that this was written by a guy?

The six habits are:

1) Trash talking your ex - No guy is interested in hearing about the former asshole in their girlfriend’s life…until they become the asshole.

2) Paranoia runs rampant - Every single guy knows that women will freak out when they want to go out with the boys. It’s like their monthly visit from their Aunt Flo. We can deal with your needs. You need to get learn to handle ours as well.

3) Trash talking other women - Actually we’re secretly hoping for a hair pulling cat fight. Bikinis, mud or jello can be optional. We can be very flexible on this topic.

4) Fishing for compliments - This will be the most important lesson you learn on this blog. Guys are completely incapable of giving out compliments. If you think your man sincerely delivered a half assed attempt at a compliment (and most likely he just did)…run with it.

5) Clingy and possessive - This usually leads to you being alone and face first in a half gallon container of cookie dough.

6) Pushing friends to him - The last thing guys want is to be displayed as “The Boyfriend”. If you’re unable to like our friends, don’t expect us to openly and willing accept yours.

Honestly, I’m shocked that the real reason guys walk away from relationships did not make this list…

…withholding sex.

Now what did you think was the real reason behind the over 50% divorce rate in this country. It certainly wasn’t our strong faith in religion or family values.

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Don’t You Ever Want To Get Married?

Posted by Mr. Sensitive on July 15, 2008

…um, no.

I had a male coworker ask me that question this afternoon. This was immediately after he mentioned that he was going to “some spa” with his wife for their fifteenth anniversary.

I asked him where they were going…

…he had no idea.

I asked how long they would be gone…

…he had no clue.

I didn’t bother asking him if him and his wife were going to the same place.

And then the bastard had the nerve to not understand why I will never get married.

Does the concept of freedom and making your own decisions evaporate once the words “I do” pass through your lips? Or is it the fact that married guys are so afraid of never getting laid again that they’re willing to trot obediently behind their Wife Masters like some mindless farm animal?

I told my male coworker that I cannot imagine being married fifteen years. My theory is that it is no different than eating the same type of breakfast cereal for an equal amount of time.

Except that the breakfast cereal doesn’t gain an extra thirty pounds and become an unbearable weight around your neck.

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What Happens After You Get Married?

Posted by Mr. Thoughtful on June 16, 2008

This post should more accurately be entitled “what can happen after you get married”, because many marriages stay happy for years.  This is merely what could  happen, and too frequently does.  It’s pitched to guys who have never been married or had close friends who are married.  It’s pitched to guys bc I have more experience with that angle.  It would be an interesting idea for some of our female blogger readers to write something on this subject that is pitched to what women might find after marriage.

Some wives stay looking great for many years.  This isn’t the norm.  Be prepared for your wife to pay less attention to her appearance than she did before the marriage.  This happens to an even greater extent after she has a baby.  This is understandable on several levels.   One, raising a small child requires a lot of time.  It’s difficult for most of us to carve out time and energy to work out even without small children. 

Also, there is just less incentive to keep looking great.  There’s an old episode of the Murphy Brown show in which Candice Bergen finds which White House official started having an affair by looking at who started gym memberships.  People, guys and girls, want to look their best when they are on the market or in a new relationship.  After the marriage, working out is done less often.  A Nordic Track is an expensive clothes rack.

Next, for those guys who were attracted to your girlfriend’s long, gorgeous hair, be warned that it may be one of the first things to go.  Girls know that long hair attracts guys.  But after they’re married they don’t really need the hair anymore.  So off it comes, if not right after the marriage, then usually soon after a baby comes.  And there’s nothing you can do about it.  If you try to talk her out of cutting it (if she even tells you of her plans before going to the salon), she’ll reply defensively, “Well, it’s MY hair.”

I’ve noticed a curious phenomenon.  If a woman gets her long hair cut off, her female friends will all applaud her for it.  In fact, I think the exact phrase her friends will use is: “It’s sooo cute.  And I’ll be it’s so easy to take care of.” (note: I’ll be Britney Spears’s recently shaved head is fairly easy to take care of; no worries about conditioners, stylists, frizz, hairspray, etc. ; just a Gillette razor and some shaving cream).

Women exert a lot of peer pressure on other women in regard to hair styles.  They will applaud the women who cut off their long hair and try to convince women with long hair to cut theirs off.  This mainly happens to women over a certain age.  It doesn’t appear to happen to women whose job is dependent on their looks, such as actresses or models.   One possible reason for this is that the women who cut their hair realize they don’t really need to be attractive anymore.

This are just a few of the areas which may well not be the same after marriage (or at least after the first few years honeymoon period).  In light of our recent comment from a guy who married a Russian woman, I’m curious as to whether these things are common with foreign wives.

Tomorrow I’ll write about the most vexing change guys find with their wives after marriage.

 

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Young people want good-looking mates; their parents want them to have mates from the same social class

Posted by Mr. Thoughtful on June 4, 2008

Three psychologists in The Netherlands just published the results of a study on how young people’s preferences differed from their parents’ preferences on finding mates.   The work, recently published in the Review of General Psychology, involved interviewing Dutch, American, and Kurdish young people and parents. 

Not surprisingly, the young people wanted attractive mates while their parents mainly wanted the kids to have mates from similar social classes and groups: 

… young people invariably considered the potential mate’s attractiveness the most important quality, whereas parents uniformly paid more attention to the suitors’ social background or group affiliation…

http://www2.journalnow.com/content/2008/may/15/checking-mates/?living

There’s no great surprise in these findings.  It has been thoroughly proven that people who are dating and picking partners, both male and female, almost always want good-looking partners.  For a review of the evidence for this proposition, see almost any of my posts on online dating and speed dating.

 

 

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Toxic Wives

Posted by Mr. Thoughtful on June 2, 2008

I came across an interesting article in England’s Daily Telegraph.  It’s about toxic wives.  Here are some of the interesting tidbits, but the link to the article is below.  As you’re reading keep in mind that the currency the author is writing about, the British pound, is worth about $2 US Dollars:

You may not know one personally, but you will certainly have read about them. They are, increasingly these days, the figures who emerge triumphant from the divorce courts. They are the ones who get to keep the house (no mortgage), the cars (usually more than one), the staff (approaching double figures) and, more often than not, half the husband’s fortune, regardless of what she has done to contribute towards it…

She is the woman who gives up work as soon as she marries, ostensibly to create a stable home environment for any children that might come along, but who then employs large numbers of staff to do all the domestic work she promised to undertake, leaving her with little to do all day except shop, lunch, luxuriate. Believe me, there is no shortage of the breed and I’ve been inundated with horror tales about them.

There is, for example, the TW who made around £30 million from only four years of marriage. Her husband couldn’t stand the way she was abusive to his staff, aggressive towards him and extravagantly indulgent with herself.

Then, there’s the ex-wife of a friend of mine, Belinda, who has been awarded several million pounds for a marriage that lasted less than three years and produced no children. The sum amounts to almost £5,000 for every day of marriage. No wonder her ex-husband, let’s call him Crispin, a City financier, is in despair. After reading the article he told me: ”Giving her £5 million for doing absolutely nothing except shop and lunch makes me question the sanity of our legal system.”

… Soon after their wedding, Belinda gave up work to care for the house. ”At first, I couldn’t understand why, because we had a cleaner who cleaned, a gardener who gardened and home cooking was provided by M&S,” says Crispin. ”Overnight she changed.

“Friends were no longer allowed to drop in like they used to - at least a week’s notice had to be given. Shoes had to be taken off at the front door. She became nagging, scolding, overbearing and shrewish. She made my life a misery. It pains me that this able-bodied, 40-year-old woman will be handsomely rewarded for the rest of her life - all at my expense. I feel as though I’m the victim of legally sanctioned burglary.”

Capturing a rich husband is seen as a legitimate career choice in itself. A 25-year-old banker friend told me that many girls don’t even bother getting a job after university - they stay on the party circuit until they’ve trapped their milch-cow.

”Just turn up at Mahiki, (the London nightclub frequented by Princes William and Harry) and you’ll find an army of potential TWs… they’re like a gang of seductive, pretty vampires who are sharpening their talons and teeth in a bid to catch a rich husband and then suck him dry of his hard-earned cash. It’s common knowledge now that one of the most lucrative careers a woman can have is to get married, have a child, and get divorced.”

…Believe me, there is a completely different species out there. They may look human, in an artificially manufactured way, but they don’t seem tohave any conscience or interest in anything other than the trivial minutiae of their own existence and, naturally, how to hitch themselves to an alpha-male…

HOW TO SPOT A TOXIC WIFE

1 Women who are secure in themselves and have a more developed emotional intelligence and personal depth do not feel the need to show off. Check whether or not she is festooned with ‘designer’ accessories. Listen carefully to what she says. How often does she name-drop?

2 On first acquaintance, she will want to find out if you’re rich or not. If you find yourself discussing your assets within the first 10 minutes you know her agenda. She is not going to waste time on you if you don’t have serious money.

3 She will flirt without first finding out if you’re married or involved with someone else. She has no scruples about stealing another woman’s man.

4 Even though she may have an impressive job, her main asset is sex. She will come on in a highly provocative manner, be wearing lots of make-up and revealing clothes. Potential toxic wives are extremely clever. Do not equate intelligence with emotional values and worth.

5 Often she will use the FSFM tactic (feel sorry for me). This will manifest itself on the second or third date. She wants to assess how generous you can be and will tell you how ”naïve” she is and how “misled” by some nasty people she owes money to. As a chivalrous male, you get out your chequebook.

6 You must find out how motivated she is. Ask her what her future goals, dreams and aspirations are.

7 Toxic gold-diggers tend to target older men. And your level of physical attractiveness makes no difference. Do you genuinely wildly arouse her or is this all an act?

8 She will choose the most expensive item on the menu or the most expensive drink.

9 Men, who have been recently widowed or divorced are great prey. You are at your most vulnerable.

10 Before you marry, go on holiday together or spend at least some time co-habiting. Remember, if you make a mistake you will pay for it for the rest of your life.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/main.jhtml?xml=/portal/2007/03/02/nosplit/fttoxic102.xml

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Women divorces husband, gets money, then many years later is allowed to go back in and extract more money from ex-husband

Posted by Mr. Thoughtful on May 30, 2008

Christian Schneider at Overlawyered reports a truly mind-boggling result from an English court.  A man’s wife left him 30 years ago and they were divorced in 1981.  He paid her a settlement then but she later lost the money.  She sues her ex-husband to get more money and wins:

British businessman Dennis North’s wife Jean left him 30 years ago after she began seeing another man. Their split became official in 1981, when they signed an agreement that granted Jean their house and income from rents on their various properties.

North went on to be a wildly successful businessman, while his ex-wife never worked. However, a judge has just ordered North to pay Jean a large lump-sum payment because she has “fallen on hard times” due to a number of money-losing investments:

Mr North, 70, has been ordered by a court to hand her another £202,000 (that’s $400,000 US dollars and about 257,000 Euros).

The order follows a series of big-money divorce cases which have swung the law against husbands and resulted in huge payments to ex-wives even after short childless marriages. The North case now threatens to make husbands pay large sums even decades after a split.

http://overlawyered.com/2007/06/large-payment-awarded-after-30-years-of-divorce/

It appears that English courts are now even more hostile to men than even US courts (to be fair, courts in the US vary from state to state; some are harsher toward men than others).

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